{"id":3407,"date":"2016-12-02T13:55:55","date_gmt":"2016-12-02T11:55:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/desprevaccin.ro\/?p=3407"},"modified":"2016-12-02T14:04:55","modified_gmt":"2016-12-02T12:04:55","slug":"testimonial-francesca-dragostin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/provaccin.ro\/desprevaccin\/testimonial-francesca-dragostin\/","title":{"rendered":"Cum se vaccineaz\u0103 \u00een Spania"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-3408 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/desprevaccin.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Francesca-Dragostin-200x300.jpg\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/provaccin.ro\/desprevaccin\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Francesca-Dragostin-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/provaccin.ro\/desprevaccin\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Francesca-Dragostin-768x1153.jpg 768w, https:\/\/provaccin.ro\/desprevaccin\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Francesca-Dragostin-686x1030.jpg 686w, https:\/\/provaccin.ro\/desprevaccin\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Francesca-Dragostin-999x1500.jpg 999w, https:\/\/provaccin.ro\/desprevaccin\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Francesca-Dragostin-469x705.jpg 469w, https:\/\/provaccin.ro\/desprevaccin\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Francesca-Dragostin-450x676.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Francesca Dragostin, 39\u00a0de ani, avocat<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Am n\u0103scut \u00een Alicante, comunitatea Valencian\u0103 din Spania, acum \u0219apte luni. Schema de vaccinare a b\u0103ie\u021belului nostru am \u00eenceput-o aici. \u0218i tot aici mergem cu el la pediatru, la controalele lunare.<\/p>\n<p>Locuiesc \u00een Spania de cinci ani \u0219i, de\u0219i am experimentat sistemul de s\u0103n\u0103tate spaniol, eu tot \u00een Rom\u00e2nia prefer s\u0103 fac investiga\u021biile medicale. Cred c\u0103 Rom\u00e2nia, de\u0219i de\u021bine mai pu\u021bin\u0103 dotare \u0219i aparatur\u0103, are medici mult mai bine preg\u0103ti\u021bi dec\u00e2t cei din Spania.<\/p>\n<p>Dac\u0103 ar fi s\u0103 compar cum se vaccineaz\u0103 copiii \u00een cele dou\u0103 \u0163\u0103ri, a\u0219 \u00eencepe prin a v\u0103 spune c\u0103 \u00een Spania protocolul na\u0219terii este diferit fa\u021b\u0103 de cel rom\u00e2nesc. De pild\u0103, aici mama este asistat\u0103 doar de moa\u0219\u0103 (matrona) \u0219i de o asistent\u0103 medical\u0103. Ginecologul ajunge doar dac\u0103 apar complica\u021bii. Iar neonatologul care este prezent la orice na\u015ftere \u00een Rom\u00e2nia, aici, \u00een Spania nu asist\u0103 la na\u015ftere, ci vede copilul de abia diminea\u0163a, \u00een cadrul vizitei matinale. Nici m\u0103car nu este un neonatolog propriu-zis, ci mai degrab\u0103 un fel de pediatru specializat \u00een bebelu\u015fi.<\/p>\n<p>Povestea vaccin\u0103rii \u00eencepe \u00eenc\u0103 din camera de na\u015fteri, \u00een primele minute dup\u0103 na\u015ftere, c\u00e2nd p\u0103rintele este \u00eentrebat dac\u0103 accept\u0103 vaccinarea (\u00een majoritatea cazurilor, tat\u0103l asist\u0103 la na\u015ftere \u015fi el este cel \u00eentrebat, mama fiind ocupat\u0103 cu procedurile post-na\u015ftere). At\u00e2t i se cere p\u0103rintelui, un simplu acord verbal, nimic scris, nicio semn\u0103tur\u0103. At\u00e2t, da sau nu. Dac\u0103 este \u201cda\u201d, bebelu\u015ful \u00eencepe cu vaccinul pentru hepatita B, administrat de asistenta medical\u0103 care a asistat la na\u015ftere. Dac\u0103 este \u201cnu\u201d, atunci pur \u0219i simplu bebelu\u015ful nu este vaccinat.<\/p>\n<p>Fa\u021b\u0103 de Rom\u00e2nia, unde vaccinul se face, \u00een majoritatea cazurilor, la medicul de familie, \u00een Spania vaccinurile sunt administrate la centrul medical (chiar \u0219i cele care se beau) de c\u0103tre asistenta medicului pediatru.<\/p>\n<p>Programarea pentru vaccin se face cu cel pu\u021bin o lun\u0103 \u00eenainte. Partea bun\u0103 este c\u0103 se poate face \u0219i online. Prin compara\u021bie, doctori\u021ba din Rom\u00e2nia ne-a spus c\u0103 \u00eei va face ea personal vaccinul bebelu\u0219ului nostru, la scurt timp din momentul \u00een care o anun\u021bam noi c\u0103 l-am achizi\u021bionat.<\/p>\n<p>Fa\u0163\u0103 de sistemul rom\u00e2nesc unde, \u00eenainte de vaccin, medicul te \u00eentreab\u0103 c\u00e2te-n lun\u0103 \u015fi-n stele despre starea de s\u0103n\u0103tate a copilului, aici, \u00een Spania acest lucru nu se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 aproape niciodat\u0103. Totul pleac\u0103 de la presupunerea medicului c\u0103 bebelu\u015ful este s\u0103n\u0103tos, a\u015fadar i se poate administra vaccinul f\u0103r\u0103 niciun fel de risc. De pild\u0103, am constatat c\u0103 \u00eenainte de vaccin, aici medicul nu obi\u015fnuie\u015fte s\u0103 \u00eei ia temperatura copilului. \u00cen cazul nostru, s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat o singur\u0103 dat\u0103 \u00een \u015fapte luni s\u0103 \u00eei ia temperatura \u00eenainte de vaccin, \u015fi asta fiindc\u0103 am cerut noi, p\u0103rin\u0163ii lui.<\/p>\n<p>Dac\u0103 vorbim despre informarea asupra reac\u021biilor adverse \u0219i a riscurilor la vaccin, \u00een Spania aceasta este una minimal\u0103.\u00a0 De pild\u0103, \u021bi se prescrie un antipiretic \u00een cazul \u00een care copilul face febr\u0103 sau \u021bi se spune c\u0103 poate ap\u0103rea o ro\u0219ea\u021b\u0103 la locul \u00een\u021bep\u0103turii \u015fi cam asta este tot.<\/p>\n<p>Niciun pediatru nu se apuc\u0103 s\u0103-\u021bi descrie posibilele reac\u021bii adverse listate \u00een prospect. Doar \u021bi se recomand\u0103 s\u0103 stai 30 de minute cu copilul pe holul clinicii, pentru a urm\u0103ri dac\u0103 apare vreo reac\u021bie grav\u0103 sau \u0219oc anafilactic. \u00cen cele 30 de minute,\u00a0 asistenta care a administrat vaccinul vine \u015fi te mai \u00eentreab\u0103 din c\u00e2nd \u00een c\u00e2nd dac\u0103 totul este \u00een regul\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Prospectul vaccinului se \u00eenm\u00e2neaz\u0103 doar la cererea expres\u0103 a p\u0103rintelui. \u00cen c\u0103rticica medical\u0103 a fiec\u0103rui copil scrie ce lot s-a administrat din acel vaccin \u0219i ce firm\u0103 l-a produs, pentru situa\u021bia \u00een care, dac\u0103 ar exista ceva probleme cu un anumit lot, s\u0103 se poat\u0103 identifica imediat beneficiarii lui.<\/p>\n<p>Din discu\u021biile mele cu alte m\u0103mici din Spania, am constatat c\u0103 majoritatea nu numai c\u0103 nu fac niciun fel de asociere \u00eentre vaccin \u0219i diferite sindroame (autism, ADHD, etc.), dar nici m\u0103car nu au cuno\u0219tin\u021b\u0103 c\u0103 unii \u0219i al\u021bii ar face o astfel de asociere.<\/p>\n<p>Legat de relaxarea cu care spaniolii privesc actul medical \u015fi medicamentele, inclusiv vaccinurile, v\u0103 mai descriu o situa\u021bie particular\u0103, chiar dac\u0103 nu este strict legat\u0103 de vaccinuri. La un moment dat, bebelu\u0219ului nostru de \u0219apte luni i s-a prescris o crem\u0103 cu hidrocortizon al c\u0103rui prospect preciza foarte limpede c\u0103 produsul este contraindicat copiilor mai mici de doi ani. \u0218ocat\u0103 de una ca asta, a doua zi am revenit la medicul pediatru s\u0103 \u00eei repro\u0219ez eroarea. Foarte surprins\u0103 de reac\u021bia mea, doctori\u021ba mi-a explicat c\u0103 ea recomand\u0103 respectiva crem\u0103 pentru to\u021bi bebelu\u0219ii care ajung la ea cu aceea\u0219i problem\u0103. Iar faptul c\u0103, oficial, crema este contraindicat\u0103 copiilor mai mici de doi ani, se trage din procedura de autorizare. \u00cen mod normal, aceasta ar presupune realizarea unor teste pe popula\u021bie, or nimeni nu \u00ee\u0219i permite s\u0103 fac\u0103 teste pe bebelu\u0219i.<\/p>\n<p>La final, doctori\u021ba m-a asigurat c\u0103 nu este prima dat\u0103 c\u00e2nd recomand\u0103 produsul \u0219i c\u0103 nimeni nu i s-a pl\u00e2ns p\u00e2n\u0103 acum de vreo reac\u021bie advers\u0103. Am ales s\u0103 am \u00eencredere \u00een doctori\u021ba mea pediatr\u0103. Ca urmare, dup\u0103 numai trei aplic\u0103ri, problema copilului era deja rezolvat\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Fiindc\u0103, dup\u0103 cinci ani petrecu\u0163i \u00een Spania, consider c\u0103 sunt \u00een m\u0103sur\u0103 s\u0103 fac aceast\u0103 paralel\u0103, v-a\u015f semnala \u00eencrederea pe care o au spaniolii \u00een vaccinuri \u015fi relaxarea p\u0103rin\u0163ilor spanioli, fa\u0163\u0103 de compatrio\u0163ii mei. Ba chiar cei mai mul\u0163i p\u0103rin\u0163i spanioli ar vrea s\u0103 fac\u0103 \u015fi vaccinurile op\u0163ionalele, care sunt destul de scumpe (\u00eentre 60 \u015fi 100 de euro). \u00cens\u0103, neprimind niciun fel de subven\u0163ie de la stat, pe acestea nu \u015fi le permit prea mul\u0163i.<\/p>\n<p>Cred eu c\u0103 diferen\u0163ele de raportare la vaccin dintre Spania \u015fi Rom\u00e2nia vin din faptul c\u0103 unii au foarte mult\u0103 \u00eencredere \u00een medicii lor, fa\u0163\u0103 de ceilal\u0163i, care au mult mai pu\u0163in\u0103. Iar eu, ca\u00a0 rom\u00e2nc\u0103, am impresia c\u0103 sunt printre pu\u0163inele m\u0103mici din Spania care chiar ajung s\u0103 citeasc\u0103 \u015fi prospectul vaccinurilor.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Francesca Dragostin, 39\u00a0de ani, avocat Am n\u0103scut \u00een Alicante, comunitatea Valencian\u0103 din Spania, acum \u0219apte luni. Schema de vaccinare a b\u0103ie\u021belului nostru am \u00eenceput-o aici. \u0218i tot aici mergem cu el la pediatru, la controalele lunare. 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